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Poster: billbarstad Date: Aug 22, 2007 9:06am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Three old movies

I'm not sure if these are PD or not:

Topper (1937)
The Women (It's all about men) (1939)
The Young in Heart (1938)

Anyone know?

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Poster: chuncha Date: Aug 22, 2007 10:55am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Three old movies

I searched copyright renewals and found nothing on these films, but to quote the archive, "....copyright is a tricky business."

Searching copyrights and renewals in not too painful, thanks to PROJECT GUTENBERG. They have scanned and uploaded the complete texts of copyright data, which are available on this site under TEXTS, PROJECT GUTENBERG.

One could download the complete renewal text 1950-1977 as one document,then load that document into Word Perfect, MS Word, Word Pro, etc, and use the Find command to quickly locate data by film name or author.

Original copyright listings can be searched in the same manner.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Aug 22, 2007 1:28pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Three old movies

I assume you're referring to texts like this at http://www.archive.org/details/uscopyrightrenew11800gut. Looks like it's just for books, as far as I can tell.

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Poster: chuncha Date: Aug 22, 2007 2:45pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Three old movies

That is the correct text. It does include film.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffRick Prelinger Date: Aug 23, 2007 7:25am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Three old movies

PG's own explanation of what's in the 1950-1977 combined renewals list (see here: http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/gutbook/lookup?num=11800) states that film renewals are only included for the year 1950. That would mean only renewals of works originally copyrighted in 1922 are available in this listing.

You can buy rather expensive "Superlists" showing motion picture copyright renewals. Most of them contain inaccuracies and, of course, don't indicate whether public domain films contain elements still under copyright.

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Poster: chuncha Date: Aug 23, 2007 8:05am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Three old movies

damn!

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Poster: k-otic Date: Aug 23, 2007 8:03am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Three old movies

so you say if the title is not listed there it is public doamin ??

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Aug 25, 2007 9:32am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Three old movies

Apparently not. Fritz Lang's 1943 film 'Hangmen Also Die' had it's copyright renewed in 1970, but is not listed here.